Rolling back CCs and followers

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  • Scott Nishizaki

    If we rollback, will the process to re-enable CCs and Followers be the same as the initial migration?

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  • Brett Bowser
    Zendesk Community Team

    Hey Scott,

    I confirmed with our Product Managers that if you were to rollback, you will need to go through the CC migration wizard as if it was your first time migrating over.

    Let us know if you have any other questions!

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  • Travis Campbell

    We are rolling back due to the behaviour of end user comments coming through as internal notes if they hit reply instead of reply all and they aren't the original requester (https://support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360034737494-New-CC-Experience-and-Internal-Notes-from-End-Users) hopefully this can be resolved before you force people to use the new CC experience.

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  • The Salvation Army

    We are rolling back as well. Is there a way to run the script that you used when we migrated to CC's and Followers to show us what Triggers, Automations and Macros will need updated?

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  • Nicole Saunders
    Zendesk Community Team

    Hi Katrina - 

    We don't have a way to run that script in reverse; you will have to manually reset your Business Rules if you decide to roll back. 

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  • CJ Johnson

    "However, the trigger’s old behavior is restored, meaning that only the requester is emailed. " 
    This is very confusing. Isn't this the NEW behavior? 
    On the article Understanding suppression of CCs email notifications it states: 
    "This article assumes that you are using the new CCs and followers experience. If you are using the old CCs experience, the information in this article does not apply to you." 

    How can I get back to the behavior where what my triggers says it does, actually happens? 

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  • Giuseppe
    Zendesk Customer Advocate

    Hi CJ,

    In this context, the new behavior refers to the action when you migrate to CC and Followers as indicated in this article - Migrating to CCs and followers

    This means:

    Old behavior/Trigger action - Trigger's action is only to notify requester, without CC

    New behavior/Trigger action - Trigger's action is to notify requester and CC

    As per the article:

    Note: If you enable the new CCs and followers experience and then rollback to the old CCs experience, any actions that used to be Email user + (requester) remain as Email user + (requester and CCs)

    This means the action in the Trigger will remain the same if you check it (i.e. Email user + requester is what you're gonna see in the Trigger settings). However, the actual action that the Trigger will do is to just email the requester, not the CC. It's recommended to rollback your business rules by following the steps in Rolling back business rules section of this article to avoid confusion.

     

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  • CJ Johnson

    How do you rollback so that you actually can send an email notification to both the requester and CC's on a ticket though? The trigger in question was set up long before the follower experience with "Email Requesters and CC's", I'm just trying to get back to a point where that can happen. It doesn't with the new experience, and the instructions on how to roll back, keep saying to "remove CC's from the email notifications" which is not what I want to do at all. I want an email notification to go out to the requester and CC, if the CC'd user replies (which leaves an internal note). It seems like this isn't possible with *either* set of configurations now? 

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  • Giuseppe
    Zendesk Customer Advocate

    Hi CJ,

    The new experience should send the notifications to both requester and CCs in the ticket, as long as you are using the Email Requester and CC action in your Triggers.

    If this is already the action in your notification Trigger and you are still getting reports that the CC is not receiving replies, I suggest first checking the ticket to make sure that the CC is indeed added to the ticket (as there are cases where the customer would reply to the ticket using a different email, without adding that email as a CC to the email thread):

    Here's another thing that we can look at: if the CC'd user's replies are appearing as internal note, then there's a chance that the CC'd user is replying using "Reply" and not "Reply all". This would indeed make the reply an internal note (because the requester is not in the recipient), but this could lead to some confusion as to whether this requester is added as CC in the ticket or not. I suggest double-checking like in the screenshot above to make sure. For more information about this, see Using "Reply" instead of "Reply all"

    If you're in the new experience setup for CC and Followers, and your trigger notifications have the action Email Requester and CCs, and the user is indeed added as CC in the ticket but are still getting reports that the user is not receiving notifications but the requester can receive the email, then there might be some deliverability issues. I suggest checking Customers are not receiving emails for this.

     

     

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  • CJ Johnson

    Giuseppe support did get back to me, and they told me the complete opposite of your post. I was told that it is not possible on the follower experience, OR the original experience, to send a CC'd user an email notification, if the latest reply on a ticket was internal. This is pretty absurd, extremely under documented, and it makes no sense that the system lets you set up triggers that don't work. 

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