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Deploying business rules to production from a premium sandbox



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Jacquelyn Brewer

Zendesk Documentation Team

Edited Nov 11, 2024


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This is a very exciting feature but I'm not sure it's ready enough for usage in more complex instances. The main issue is that the creation of the Sandbox does not copy over all triggers/ automations, when there are issues with the fields or it's values.

Ticket sharing fields are considered inactive ticket fields and thus are not copied to the Sandbox. So now we are missing 30-ish triggers. Inactive triggers are synced tho (because that makes sense).

Using the whole deployment thing as it is now would be a pain, manage triggers in sandbox, unless they are related to ticket sharing, then manage in production. This obviously defeats the whole purpose of working in a sandbox and deploying. We want a consistent way of working.

Thus it would be nice if:

  • ALL triggers/automations are copied over (even broken ones, they can be fixed in stg)
  • If fields like ticket sharing are present just make them read-only
  • Show a message/warning on the production triggers/automations page that these should be managed from Sandbox
  • When creating a sandbox show a message about triggers/automations that failed to copy over

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Shawna James

Community Product Feedback Specialist

Hey Joey, thank you so much for taking the time to provide us with your feedback here. I wanted to point you in the direction of our product feedback forum for Admin Center where we collect product feedback and where our PM’s review feedback from our customers. We would greatly appreciate you using this forum to share your feedback with us for better visibility. Here is our product feedback template to get you started. Thank you!

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Thanks Shawna, but I find it more useful to give feedback and read about other user experiences within the articles.

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Shawna James

Community Product Feedback Specialist

Hey Joey, I totally understand and appreciate your want to engage with other users! I just want to confirm and clarify that if you are hoping your product feedback directly reaches a Product Manager, the best way to do that is our feedback forums linked above. That forum is our regularly monitored space to collect customer product feedback on our products, like yours, which can be taken into to consideration by our product teams. Thank you again for engaging in our Community! 

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Will it ever be possible to deploy forms and fields from Sandbox to Live?

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Chris Sos

Zendesk Product Manager

Hey Hannah Lucid

Thank you for reaching out! We're excited to share that we do have plans to expand our deployable objects, with forms and fields on our roadmap. Stay tuned for updates as we roll out these enhancements in the coming months – your feedback is invaluable as we build out these features. 

Cheers, Chris

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Good to hear that deployable functionality will be expanded but please first fix these trigger issues. 

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Chris Sos

Zendesk Product Manager

Hi Joey,

Thanks for the feedback regarding ticket sharing in sandboxes. We'll take this on for future sandbox enhancements.

Chris

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Am I correct to understand that cloning a trigger in sandbox will make it not show up in the deploy list?

Steps: clone trigger in sandbox -> go to deploy screen -> notice the cloned trigger isn't there.

The original trigger shows up as changed, which it wasn't.

Edit: looks like it shows up when you archive it (probably any following save) 

Edit edit: When adding a trigger in the middle somewhere it will consider all triggers below as changed so now you have to go through the whole list of triggers trying to find what you changed. In our case, we changed 12 triggers but now the deploy list has over 250 changed triggers on that day. Good luck finding those 12 with no search on that page.

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Was just looking at the webinar schedule so me and the admin I'm training can learn more. There aren't any scheduled for the rest of the month or June. Will any more webinars be offered?

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I am looking for a webinar in late May or early June.

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@... …any update on this?

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Plus 1 on interest in scheduling a webinar session . I don't see any availability currently.

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Jamie Noell

Zendesk Luminary

Overall, I really like the triggers/automations deployment except for 2 points, and we use this feature a lot.  Excited for the new changes announced in the EAP!

Issues:

1.  The over-notification of updated triggers due to trigger placement changes as described above. 

2.  I'll submit in product feedback but also want to check here if there are any plans for trigger deployment that include an email address (which typically shows as a conflict since the sandbox domain differs).  With a similar product, Salto just looks at what's before the @ for the comparsion.

Example:
help@abc.com

help@abc-sandbox.zendesk.com 

 

Because both have help@, then the trigger would deploy.  We have to migrate our email routing triggers manually due to this issue.

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