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Configuring the conversation order and composer location in tickets



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Lisa Kelly

Zendesk Documentation Team

Edited Jul 03, 2024


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Hi,

when I put the composer on top and "top to bottom read" it always load "at bottom" and I need click the "go up" message to see last comment, bug?

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Jimmy Rufo

Zendesk Luminary

So to clarify....

  • Before new agent workspace -- any client, any plan, can view composition window at top, and see order of comments latest up top, to bottom.
  • When client upgrades to new agent workspace -- The conversation/comments order, and composition window changes, without ability to toggle to the "Classic" view.  Clients who aren't chat/messaging based complain to switch back, or offer config setting options.
  • Zendesk's solution?  Provide settings option to toggle, ONLY if you upgrade to Enterprise?

Zendesk effectively takes away a commonly used configuration, and only offers to give it back if they upgrade their plan.  Thats just wrong, and doesn't make any sense.

CC Cory Vegel

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Lisa Kelly

Zendesk Documentation Team

Hi Tobias
The composer overlap is a known issue. We expect to rollout a fix soon (within the next two weeks). 

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Pedro Rodrigues

Community Moderator

Hi Lisa Kelly, this is great news! I already have custom layouts enabled but I can't see the Conversation configuration as shown. Is there a form to sign up for these new options, or should we wait for them to be available? Thanks in advance!

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Lisa Kelly

Zendesk Documentation Team

Hi Pedro
This feature is fully rolled out so you should see it in your account if you have Custom layouts activated.  When you open a layout for editing, make sure you:

  1. Click Customize layout. 
  2. Make sure you have the Conversation pane selected in the main layout. See image below. Otherwise, you won't see the settings. 

If you still don't see it, contact Zendesk Customer Support. so they can help you troubleshoot. 

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Amisha Sharma

Zendesk Product Manager

Hi all, thank you for your comments and raising your concerns on this matter. We understand your frustration and viewpoints here and appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. Please see below for some more context on our decision and vision.

Zendesk's vision for the future of our product focuses on continuity, consistency, and clarity. By that nature, our Agent Workspace is a reflection of an omnichannel experience that's scalable across all channels. This release in Layout Builder is viewed as an add on since it stands to change this omnichannel experience.  I will note that while our vision is clear and we are confident in the road ahead, there are always areas to improve and we hope you will continue to let us know where we can be better aligned. 

We also want to note that this feature is currently in EAP and is only available to customers on the Enterprise plan. To that end we ask that you please continue to raise these issues to us and the impact on your business. We will continue to collect and monitor this thread for your comments. We also are looking to open up Layout Builder access to lower tiered plans so your further feedback is helpful for our work in that direction.

I understand that this update may be frustrating to some but hope our transparency in this moment can help you better understand our product as it stands and where we are headed.

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Amisha Sharma

Zendesk clearly showed that you/they don't care. I think nobody here understands what you are doing and where you are heading. 

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"Zendesk's vision for the future of our product focuses on continuity, consistency, and clarity. By that nature, our Agent Workspace is a reflection of an omnichannel experience that's scalable across all channels."

Does omnichannel here mean "all channels except email?"

Give us a break. Before workspace, the layout was extremely suited to purpose. Now it's extremely difficult for those of us who are email based to follow long ticket threads. I'm not going to upgrade to Enterprise to fix this. I might leave the platform for one that is less hostile to my segment & feedback from it. I HAVE warned friends of mine, who are in similar small businesses and considering moving to a ticket platform, that they should avoid Zendesk as they are, like most small businesses, currently email based.

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Shawna James

Community Product Feedback Specialist

Hi all, thank you very much for your continued feedback here. We appreciate your transparency about how these changes are affecting your business. I want to confirm that as your feedback comes we are logging it internally and also following up with your AE to pass along the feedback as well. Thank you again. 

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Re. Natalie Doran
I so agree with you.  Every single time I have to use Zendesk, I have to resize something and hunt around for the text I want.  It's so frustrating, every single time I use it.  I WISH there was a desktop app where I was in more control.  Zendesk is sooo close to being a nice product, but instead, they crippled it by making the entire main point of it imho (to read text and write text) a 3rd class citizen.  I am working on an in-house replacement because of how long this madness has gone on for, which I'm doing on my own time, for free!, because of how annoying it is to simply read and reply to a ticket, EVERY SINGLE TIME :(

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Hey Shawna James How is it going with implementing our feedback into Zendesk?

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Shawna James

Community Product Feedback Specialist

Hey Johannes and all, thank you so much for taking the time to provide us with your feedback here.
 
I wanted to point you in the direction of our product feedback forum for Support where we collect product feedback and where our PM’s review feedback from our customers. While we read and review every piece of feedback that comes through our Help Center and Community, we would greatly appreciate you using this forum to share your product feedback with us for better visibility. Here is our product feedback template to get you started. 
 
I also want to take a moment to reference our guidelines in this response. Product feedback that is provided in this space is not guaranteed to be included on any product backlog or roadmaps. While we listen and read every piece of feedback that comes through, in some instances, our product teams need to make the tough decision to work in a direction that is not aligned with a particular piece of feedback. The forum is simply for sharing your challenges and how you use the product, but it is not a case/resolution system.
 
If you are interested in learning more about this and other features being built please make sure to check out our Community eventsWhat’s New Community Topic, and Zendesk Updates. Thank you again for being a valuable Zendesk customer!

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Hey Shawna James 

 

Please give a quick overview of your product feature request or feedback and note who in your org is affected by this issue.

We would like to not readjust the windows EVERY time we are using Zendesk.

Please make sure that the quality is at least acceptable for the customers, which is currently not the case. We have to readjust something every time we open a ticket.

 

What problem do you see this solving?

Like above: We would like to not readjust the windows EVERY time we are using Zendesk.

 

When was the last time you were affected by this lack of functionality, or specific tool? What happened? How often does this problem occur and how does this impact your business?

Daily.

 

Are you currently using a workaround to solve this problem? (If yes, please explain)

Readjust it EVERY time.

 

What would be your ideal solution to this problem? How would it work or function?

Like said multiple times: We would like to not readjust the windows EVERY time we are using Zendesk.

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Please give a quick overview of your product feature request or feedback and note who in your org is affected by this issue.

Delete this big block for “apply macro” and just put it in the answerfield, like the button for links. It is just a waste of space.

 

What problem do you see this solving?

Like above: It is just a waste of space.

 

When was the last time you were affected by this lack of functionality, or specific tool? What happened? How often does this problem occur and how does this impact your business?

Daily.

 

Are you currently using a workaround to solve this problem? (If yes, please explain)

There is no workaround.

 

What would be your ideal solution to this problem? How would it work or function?

Like said multiple times: We would like to just have it in the answerfield, like the links.

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Shawna James 
 

We would just appreciate if you don't need some product feedback template for the easiest possible problem.

 

It took over a month to get an answer and it was in no possible way helpful to everyone.

It sounds just like a template and has literally zero connection to the messages above.

 

When you read our feedback, it is not necessary that we need to answer some form and say the same thing multiple times in some topics like this.

 

Hope to get a faster reply on my concerns and templates and not a auto-response message.

Thanks!

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Shawna James

Community Product Feedback Specialist

Hey everyone, I appreciate you sharing your continued feedback here.
 
My intention in sharing our product feedback forum and the feedback template was to direct you to the place where our product managers review customer product feedback and can help answer your questions more directly. I am not a product manager so I unfortunately am not able to provide product specific answers about the feasibility of this feature request. You are of course more than welcome to continue to provide your feedback in this space; it was my hope in sharing the forum that is more active with our Product Managers that you would be able to receive the engagement you desired. 
 
Thank you for sharing your product feedback and continuing to help us understand how we can improve our processes. 

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Hi there.  Wondering if there's any update on when this will available for professional accounts.  We use Outlook so forwarded emails create a lot of confusion with the thread direction and I would love to implement the customization described here.

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I've been sent an email that we'll be “upgraded” to agent workspaces between 28 and 30 of Oct. The order of messages is an issue that been raised multiple times, and if we have to upgrade to Enterprise to retain the functionality we use, we'll most probably just migrate away.

 

So if Zendesk has decided that any feature people need in their current product is going to move to a more expensive plan, I wonder how long until we have to pay extra for email.

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Lisa Kelly

Zendesk Documentation Team

Hi Vasil, 
This option is also available on Professional plans. See the plan banner at the top of the article. So if you have a Professional plan (Suite or Support) you can configure the conversation order. 

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I'm testing the new interface again, and I can now put the composer on top but unfortunately this only seems to apply to existing tickets. Every time I open a new ticket the composer is still at the bottom and it gets on top only after updating the ticket. This is very annoying when you have to write an email in a new ticket.  Why doesn't the configuration apply to all tickets? That makes no sense.

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Lisa Kelly

Zendesk Documentation Team

Thanks, Youli. We appreciate your comments.  See below for details. 
From this article: Note: When you first create a ticket, the standard ticket layout is used no matter what default layout or contextual workspace is configured for the ticket. You need to submit and reopen the ticket before you see a custom layout applied.

For best results, Zendesk recommends posting your comment in our product feedback forum for Support  where we collect product feedback and where our PM’s review feedback from our customers. Use this forum to share your feedback with us for better visibility. Here is our product feedback template to get you started. 

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